tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36944202.post8590870413728339739..comments2023-08-24T18:32:09.900+08:00Comments on Muddy Waters: Here's Your CardUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36944202.post-37008184572146211892007-10-19T17:10:00.000+08:002007-10-19T17:10:00.000+08:00Michael -Thanks for the comment! You are correct ...Michael -<BR/>Thanks for the comment! You are correct in your observations on Asian culture, cards, and collectivism. However, in this instance the man was indeed very exclusive about his flavor and told us that other flavors of the church were NOT going to heaven. He wanted us to join him, and he was not going to join us. <BR/><BR/>Indeed, cards are common... I have no beef with them other than they get "tai mafan" - however, such "membership" styles are anathama to Christ's teachings... even though American and Taiwanese Churches tend to practice such exclusivity. <BR/><BR/>My little moral object lesson is more about being inclusive rather than as a negative commentary about Asia... rather it is more negative toward Christians.<BR/><BR/>Thanks again!<BR/>-MichaelThe Haggardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16083108330210256410noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36944202.post-54872472309745067142007-10-19T16:55:00.000+08:002007-10-19T16:55:00.000+08:00Interesting culture clash there.We were not going ...Interesting culture clash there.<BR/><BR/><B>We were not going to get his "premium serivce" of listening and valuing our words until we showed him our membership and repeated relationship with a particular "Flavor" of Church.</B><BR/><BR/>Don't think the Flavor of Christianity is the issue. I think, being a good collectivist, he wanted to join your <I>group</I> rather than join <I>your</I> group (as opposed to some other). Decentralized control is a mystery to Asians raised in centralized, collectivist cultures where lineages are so important in defining who is part of what. <BR/><BR/>Also, everyone in Taiwan asks for cards. It's second nature.Michael Turtonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17974403961870976346noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36944202.post-81184703811522944892007-10-16T00:07:00.000+08:002007-10-16T00:07:00.000+08:00that's a nice post Haggard. Quality over quantity....that's a nice post Haggard. Quality over quantity.<BR/>great insight into Taiwan *and* Christian culture.Scotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05334600910504159048noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36944202.post-50601335543265288432007-10-14T00:28:00.000+08:002007-10-14T00:28:00.000+08:00Wow! I finally get the pleasure of reading a nice ...Wow! I finally get the pleasure of reading a nice up to date post! This one definitely had me laughing. You'd think with all of these cards, they'd come up with a debit card at least -- how I miss those!Cahleen @ The Alt Storyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14704918285007073873noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36944202.post-83587804681832054292007-10-13T21:38:00.000+08:002007-10-13T21:38:00.000+08:00Michael, good to hear from you again..I really enj...Michael, good to hear from you again..I really enjoy Sandy's blogs though.....and she posts nearly everyday...good for her! Keep up the good work in Taiwan!Keithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13005307143470902299noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36944202.post-58964601095162575052007-10-13T20:50:00.000+08:002007-10-13T20:50:00.000+08:00No, but I play on on TV.Thanks for the kudos!-The ...No, but I play on on TV.<BR/><BR/>Thanks for the kudos!<BR/>-The HaggardThe Haggardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16083108330210256410noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36944202.post-37343147308260995472007-10-13T12:06:00.000+08:002007-10-13T12:06:00.000+08:00as always, great post. love the way you make obje...as always, great post. <BR/><BR/>love the way you make object lessons. are you a pastor-teacher? ;)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com